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  • 1.  Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-08-2023 16:55

    We have a historic vessel at our museum that is accessioned, and it recently underwent some restoration. New rigging and anchors were installed. Is it important to retain the old anchors and rigging even though those items are not accessioned individually? 

    Thanks in advance,



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    Lydia Rao
    Collections Manager
    Santa Barbara Maritime Museum
    Santa Barbara CA
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  • 2.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-09-2023 15:14
    I would talk to the folks at San Francisco Maritime to see what they do. Many if not all of their vessels are in their collection.

    Emily

    Emily Murphy
    Curator
    Salem Maritime National Historic Site
    Saugus Iron Works National Historic Site

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  • 3.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-10-2023 17:36

    Hi Lydia, 
    As the acting C2C Care community monitor, I'd like to thank you for posting this query to the community. Looking through our listing of care experts I don't find any with specific expertise with rigging for vessels, and it sounds like a complex issue. It seems like it would be important to document and/or describe the previous rigging and perhaps that has already been done. It sounds like a good opportunity for networking with other maritime museums on the West Coast. Meanwhile, I encourage any experts in this field to share their experiences.



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    Karen Jones
    Book and Paper Conservator
    Freelance/Private Practice/Self-employed/Independent
    Denver CO
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  • 4.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-11-2023 15:27
    Hi Lydia,

    I've reached out to our underwater archaeologists, who frequently work with maritime history museums, to see if they have any advice. You might also reach out to the Mariners' Museum in Virginia and see if they have any thoughts. If I hear back from our folks, I'll share it online. They are out in the field this past week and haven't seen the email yet.

    Kate

    Katherine Ridgway

    State Archaeological Conservator

    Division of State Archaeology | Virginia Department of Historic Resources

    804-482-6442

    katherine.ridgway@dhr.virginia.gov

    www.dhr.virginia.gov

    2801 Kensington Avenue, Richmond, Virginia 23221

     

     






  • 5.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-14-2023 14:18

    Hi Emily,

    Great idea, I will reach out to them, thank you!



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    Lydia Rao
    Collections Manager
    Santa Barbara CA
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  • 6.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-10-2023 17:36

    Hi Lydia,

    I used to work at the National Maritime Museum (France), and even if this is a Collections Management question, as a conservator I would suggest to keep those. I don't know the history of the vessel you have, but those pieces can always be a source of valuable technical and historical information that can be studied any time in the future. Even if we do our best making the most respectful restitutions during a restoration treatment, there is still some interpretation. 



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    Nidia Navarro-Potel
    Collections Care Conservator
    Biltmore Estate
    Asheville NC
    (848) 252-9518
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  • 7.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-13-2023 07:14

    Lydia,

    One of The Mariners' Museum archaeological conservators here. I agree with Nidia Navarro-Potel, I would suggest to keep them as there can be technical and historical information in the original pieces that even the best reproductions won't have. Things like style of manufacturing, materials used, quality of manufacture, just to name a few (if you need to argue your case). I'd suggest just putting them in storage and documenting what location in the ship they originated from. 

    Best of luck!



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    Laurie King
    Archaeological Conservator
    The Mariners' Museum and Park
    Newport News VA
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  • 8.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-14-2023 15:46

    Hi Laurie, 

    I will try and get some more information from the experts who removed the rigging and see if they can share some of these pertinent details. Thank you for your help!



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    Lydia Rao
    Collections Manager
    Santa Barbara CA
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  • 9.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-14-2023 07:30

    Adding on to what others have already wrote - is the vessel a designated historical national landmark? Institutions managing vessels with that designation are expected to follow certain guidelines to maintain that designation. Does it have any other special status that might have guidelines you need to follow? How old is it? The older it is, the more valuable original components are for researchers and conservators later on because there is usually less information about their manufacture. It is important to look at your collections policies and if this issue isn't addressed, it would be a good time to add that in since it will probably come up again. Components of an accessioned object, in my interpretation generally, should still be considered accessioned for legal purposes. Additionally, it is otherwise too easy for someone who doesn't know better to not consider the ramifications of throwing parts away (I speak from experience on this one unfortunately). If the decision ends up being that they will be gotten rid of, I would at the very least get someone who specializes in historic ship restoration to document the specs of those components.



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    Alyssa Opishinski
    East Greenwich RI
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  • 10.  RE: Restoring a Historical Vessel

    Posted 08-14-2023 14:18

    Hi Alyssa,

    Thanks for all these wonderful questions. It is not designated a historic national landmark; it is a sportfishing vessel from 1917, which has passed through multiple private ownerships for 80 years before coming to our museum. It has undergone many changes and restorations since then, some of which were documented and some which were not. We are holding onto the rigging, but believe it to be a more recent replacement, probably right before or after the boat came to the museum. I also agree that it's easier to hold onto parts than to have toss them and need them later. 



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    Lydia Rao
    Collections Manager
    Santa Barbara CA
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