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  • 1.  Fire extinguisher "grenades"

    Posted 07-31-2025 10:52

    We have two sets of fire extinguishing "grenades" dating from the early 20th century in our collection. One set of four appear to be part of a salesman's kit and the other six are in a For Fire Shur-Stop Kit. All are full of carbon tetrachloride, which we know to be a highly dangerous substance. I have read that some institutions have successfully drained these bulbs, and I have also read that some replace with reproductions. We've been debating what to do and would appreciate any input from museums that have dealt with these items.

     

    Thank you.

    Martha E. Wiley

    Collection Manager

    Upcountry History Museum – Greenville County

    864-467-3100 x107

     

    UPCOUNTRYHISTORY.ORG

     



  • 2.  RE: Fire extinguisher "grenades"

    Posted 08-01-2025 11:25
    At my previous institution (and nearly 20 years ago) we had a couple of these, also with carbon tetrachloride, out of some old industrial barns located on the museum's property that dated to the 1930s.  They were not accessioned as they did not fit the collecting plan of the institution.

    In consultation with our admin, it was decided that as a hands-on, living history museum the risk to health for staff and visitors was deemed too great to warrant keeping them.   We found a hazmat company to take them away - which was hard to do and pricey...

    Lana Newhart-Kellen

    Collections & Facilities Manager/Purdue Galleries

    Patti & Rusty Rueff School of Design, Art & Performance

    Harrison Hall/HARR C-14B

    107 MacArthur Drive

    West Lafayette IN 47906

    765-496-2816

    ljnewhar@purdue.edu

     

     






  • 3.  RE: Fire extinguisher "grenades"

    Posted 08-04-2025 10:26

    Hi Martha,

     

    Tara Kennedy and I actually wrote an articles about these grenades for the AIC Newsletter. You can find it on page 20 here:  https://www.culturalheritage.org/docs/default-source/publications/periodicals/newsletter/aic-news-vol-46-no-6-(november-2021).pdf?sfvrsn=21541520_7

     

    This article should help inform you as you are trying to make a decision about next steps. The main takeaways are that if they are leaking or there is a fire, you have a very dangerous situation on your hands. Personally, I'm not a fan of having potentially lethal chemicals in collections, but you may have good reasons for keeping them. I would start by contacting the local fire department, as they are usually helpful with hazmat. That being said, they might want to take them away and dispose of them rather than work with you to empty them and replace the carbon tet with water. If you do replace it with water, make sure this is known and obvious in several places. I have worked with an institution in the past were they thought they had done this, but no one wrote it down so they couldn't be sure.

     

    Please feel free to reach out if you want to talk more about this topic. Good luck!

     

    Kate

     

     

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  • 4.  RE: Fire extinguisher "grenades"

    Posted 08-12-2025 18:07

    Thak you to everyone who answered my query – it is very helpful to hear what others are doing! I appreciate this group.

     

    Martha E. Wiley

    Collection Manager

    Upcountry History Museum – Greenville County

    864-467-3100 x107

     

    UPCOUNTRYHISTORY.ORG

     






  • 5.  RE: Fire extinguisher "grenades"

    Posted 08-01-2025 15:08

    Hi! At my institution we have a Red Comet Fire Extinquisher which is still filled with its liquid.  It was recently requested for use in an exhibition so I had a long conversation with our fire marshal about its stability and safety.  We were told by our fire marshal that he deems it safe to store and safe to exhibit provided it does not start leaking.  Good luck!

    Brooke



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    Brooke Wagner
    Museum Collections Curator
    Northwest Museum of Arts & Culture
    Spokane
    United States
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  • 6.  RE: Fire extinguisher "grenades"

    Posted 08-04-2025 10:26

    Hi Martha, 

    Thank you for reaching out to C2C Care! I've contacted some of our experts to see if they have any additional advice. I would think contacting your local fire marshal or local American Industrial Hygienist Association might give you some good answers. They have a consultant search tool that might help you find one in your area: AIHA Consultants Directory They collaborate with AIC and other conservation groups so are familiar with hazards within collections.

    All the best,

    Liz



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    Elizabeth Peirce
    C2C Care Community Monitor 7/21-8/3
    Conservator (Objects)
    Library of Congress
    Washington DC
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